how do we fix that environment? policy wise, culturally, this is for anybody. >> it is a huge cultural problem that we have. the flight from heritage. it is frustrating -- marriage. it is frustrating because you do not want to seem preachy to people about how to live their lives. yet, we know for a fact that people who get married -- people who -- the liberal foundation about 20 years ago did a study, much quoted since then, and they found that if you just did three things in american life, you would not be poor. that was, refrain from having children until you got married, get married and stay married, get a job, any job. you did not have to graduate from high school. if you did those three things, you would not be poor. unfortunately, when you tell people that, it seems as if you're being judgmental and you are preaching. there is a certain amount of preaching that is going to be necessary. charles murray said in his fantastic book, what we have now is a bifurcated society where the upper classes are still getting